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What part of ‘illegal’ don’t they understand?
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As a journalist, I try to be open-minded on the various issues facing society today. But when it comes to illegal immigration I just don’t get it.

Oh, I fully understand the scope of undocumented aliens and its implications. What I don’t get is people ignorantly advocating amnesty for those who have blatantly broken our laws and are straining our educational, medical, social services, law enforcement and other resources.

The issue of what to do about illegal immigration has surfaced from time to time in recent years, only to drift back into obscurity with nothing meaningful ever getting done. It has reappeared once more with the recent re-election of President Barack Obama.

Supporters say this will provide momentum for what they call “immigration reform” — but which is amnesty plain and simple, defined as the “forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.”

Now when someone breaks into our homes or cars, do we want them to receive amnesty? If a thief takes your car, are you going to say, “well, you’ve already got my vehicle, so why shouldn’t I just go ahead and give you the title?” Certainly not. So then why should there be a push to reward people who’ve broken into our country?

It once meant something to be an American and the last time I checked, we were a nation of laws. People learn early on to wait their turn in line, pay taxes and play by the rules.

Somehow, though, illegal immigrants get a pass and not only are they to blame, but also amnesty supporters — most of whom have done no research. They’ve simply adopted what they think is the politically correct, flavor-of-the month position and rely on the usual tired responses to defend it:

“Immigrants Built America”

Yes, the ancestors of virtually everyone in this country came from somewhere else, but those were LEGAL immigrants who were part of orderly growth.

Entering the processing center at Ellis Island was legal and orderly. So is going to the back of the line and waiting your turn, along with learning the English language and other skills to be a good citizen.

Thirty Mexicans jumping a fence in the middle of the night is neither orderly nor legal.

“They’re Good People”

Supposedly, those taking advantage of a lax enforcement system by coming and staying here illegally are simply seeking a better life for themselves and their families. We are constantly told that their presence benefits society.

Which begs the question, if these are such good hardworking folks, why don’t they remain in their home countries and make those better places? If Mexico is as corrupt as it’s purported to be, they can start a revolution and return the government to the people.

After all, that’s what Americans have done. I can think of no situation in which our citizens would head in droves to Canada or somewhere else instead of staying here and fighting for a better life.

“These Folks Pay Taxes”

A check with someone who works in human resources at a manufacturing company revealed that illegal immigrants often will claim exorbitant numbers of dependents for withholding purposes.

This ensures that no taxes come out of their paychecks.

And since there is a required Social Security deduction from checks, for all workers, the illegals basically consider this a trade-off that allows them to circumvent taxation. At the same time, they benefit from our schools and social services.

“Records Don’t Matter”

Might I remind people that several unsolved murders are on the books in Surry County involving suspects who have simply vanished back to their homeland or somewhere else with a new identity?

Most recently, that includes Fernando Quiroz Perivan, who is wanted in connection with the brutal slaying of another man near the Rockford bridge over the Yadkin River last Jan. 12.

Then there is what’s considered the deadliest crime in Mount Airy history — the murder of four people near Wood’s TV in November 2009. The shooter was an illegal Mexican immigrant who already had been deported once.

The problem with such suspects? Yes, you guessed it, no documentation. Without it, how do you know if someone is “good folks,” or part of a drug cartel?

“Amnesty Is Sensible”

Past amnesty proposals, including one during the George W. Bush administration, have included provisions to require all illegals to come forward and register. They then would be assessed some kind of penalty and maybe required to pay back taxes.

But if those who are undocumented aren’t playing by the rules already — making it crystal-clear that they’d rather take than give — why would they comply with such amnesty provisions?

“You’re Just Racist!”

When all else fails, use the race card.

However, there is nothing racist about wanting everyone to obey the law, especially the most basic one of all: the right to be here in the first place.

As with other great societies of the past, such as the Roman Empire, America seems to be crumbling from within because of the direction it’s headed with failed policies.

And in the end, there will be the sad realization that we weren’t done in by enemy bombs or invading armies — but did it to ourselves.

Tom Joyce is a staff reporter for The Mount Airy News. He can be reached at 719-1924 or tjoyce@heartlandpublications.com.

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ns61
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November 21, 2012
when I hear people say enoforce our boarders all I hear is more government spending. whey not put that money into education or at least give it to those who need it the most like the middle class in America.
petetempleton
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November 20, 2012
Too bad the passion of this article wasn't channeled into a comprehensive narrative of the complexities of our immigration reform challenges. Might have made more interesting and informative reading if the writer had taken the time to listen to the other side of the issue and make an attempt to document the history of our immigration woes. Going back to the era when we stole this country from its original citizens, destroyed their culture, killed or rounded them up on the most undesireable parts of this country, one can make a case that all of us "legals" may have violated a few laws, as well.

So when I think of "them" as in "What part of illegal don't they understand?", I tend to look at the problem a bit differently. Part of what I focus on is how difficult it must be to be a legal citizen born in this country to the undocumented and feel the judgement or experience the ridicule of those who don't know the facts; or I think of the non-citizens who serve in combat to defend our freedoms and have to read one-sided indictments of their very being. Rather than railing at the vast majority of the undocumented, we should be demanding that our elected members of Congress visit us and listen to the importance we place on a rational and expeditious solution to this complex and divisive problem.
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November 20, 2012
Dear ns61, You are ranting about Latin American countries. I do not need to do research to know American laws are not being enforced! Check my eartlier posts. Our country is on the very edge of collapse and cannot keep providing handouts to anyone that can cross our borders. As for getting votes, they are doing it by being politically correct. That is exactly what the president did by executive order. Instead of enforcing our laws, he changed them! Time for you to do some research, my friend! Of course we should help the poor whenever we can, but not at the expense of the demise of our own nation. Very last post on this subject: enforce our borders and ports and enforce the immigration laws already on the books! Pray for our nation.
ns61
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November 20, 2012
Being politically correct to get whose vote? It seems like you are implying that politicians want the vote of illegal immigrants, who cannot vote in the first place. I agree with you that law enforcement official need to enforce the law, but on the other hand we also need to analyze our boarder policies and our policies in Latin America, because we are obviously doing something wrong or else so many people would not be trying to enter our country. The problem is not in Latin America, but here. We have a high demand for drugs here in America and that has devastated the nations of Latin America, because they will do whatever it takes to supply our demand and make a bit of money to feed their families.

We also need to stop taking jobs away from the middle and lower classes of Latin America. NAFTA has devastated the agricultural system in Mexico, and our harsh military policies in Latin American have devastated the political systems of Central American nations such as Nicaragua, and Guatemala.

Please do your research in the last decade or so we have flooded Mexico with high amount of cheap, low quality agricultural food products. If you look at a migration chart of the Mexican provinces in the last decade or so the population of Mexico shifted from the country side to the big cites. These humble people could not compete with the large American agricultural products so they moved to the cities, because these humble people have little to no education and in many cases they do not even speak Spanish, but their native indigenous tongue they cannot compete in the highly industrialized cites. What has happened is that because they can no longer live off their land and cannot find jobs in the cities they have resorted to immigrating to the United States.

Stop blaming them when we are the ones who are pushing these people to resorting to moving here. These people are only looking to find jobs in order to feed their family back home. The real question that we should ask ourselves is what can we do in order to prevent these people from crossing our boarder. We could literally set up a one-hundred foot high wall, and place the military along the border, but people would still find a way to get in because they have no other option.

ns61
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November 20, 2012
Being politically correct to get whose vote? It seems like you are implying that politicians want the vote of illegal immigrants, who cannot vote in the first place. I agree with you that law enforcement official need to enforce the law, but on the other hand we also need to analyze our boarder policies and our policies in Latin America, because we are obviously doing something wrong or else so many people would not be trying to enter our country. The problem is not in Latin America, but here. We have a high demand for drugs here in America and that has devastated the nations of Latin America, because they will do whatever it takes to supply our demand and make a bit of money to feed their families.

We also need to stop taking jobs away from the middle and lower classes of Latin America. NAFTA has devastated the agricultural system in Mexico, and our harsh military policies in Latin American have devastated the political systems of Central American nations such as Nicaragua, and Guatemala.

Please do your research in the last decade or so we have flooded Mexico with high amount of cheap, low quality agricultural food products. If you look at a migration chart of the Mexican provinces in the last decade or so the population of Mexico shifted from the country side to the big cites. These humble people could not compete with the large American agricultural products so they moved to the cities, because these humble people have little to no education and in many cases they do not even speak Spanish, but their native indigenous tongue they cannot compete in the highly industrialized cites. What has happened is that because they can no longer live off their land and cannot find jobs in the cities they have resorted to immigrating to the United States.

Stop blaming them when we are the ones who are pushing these people to resorting to moving here. These people are only looking to find jobs in order to feed their family back home. The real question that we should ask ourselves is what can we do in order to prevent these people from crossing our boarder. We could literally set up a one-hundred foot high wall, and place the military along the border, but people would still find a way to get in because they have no other option.

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November 19, 2012
ns61 again Lets try sticking to the suject at hand. "What we have now is not the solution." You are right with this statement because no government agency will enforce the laws. They are too bent on getting the vote by being politically correct. The first step is SECURE OUR BORDERS AND PORTS! This comes first, before we talk about anything else. (61, are you with me on this?} It is so frustrating to me that no-one with the proper authority will enforce the laws that are already on the books! But in any case, secure the boders and ports!

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November 19, 2012
To Ns61. The overwhelming majority of illegals are from Mexico. Other Latinos come through the Mexican border, no doubt about it.

How can Latinos fight for a better life in their country because of American influence there? What an absurd point you are trying to make. I suppose you want to have completely open borders, drain the social services, wreak havock on our judical system, and continue to overcrowd our educational system, all in the name of not appearing to be prejudice.

Bottom line: secure our borders and ports, prosecute companies (including the carport companies and Wayne Farms) for hiring illegals and otherwise enforce immigration laws already on the books. Americans by and large are not lazy! We want people to enter our country legally no matter where they are coming from! It is not a prejudice act to enforce our laws. Period!
ns61
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November 19, 2012
Well lets see we send out factories to latin american and place them in slave working conditions. No one said that some of us want an open boarder policy, but what we have no is clearly not the solution.

Oh and yeah American we are lazy, just go to your local unemployment office and see for yourself. We turn down jobs simply because its not our style, our kids drop out of school, and then we blame other for our mistakes.
bimbim
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November 19, 2012
To display, AMEN. They just keep coming because they know they can. Until the US enforces current laws, nothing will change. Now they want to be called Mexican Americans. Well, by God, I AM AN APPALICHIAN AMERICAN AND PROUD OF IT! Maybe it's time to open up an can...
ns61
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November 18, 2012
As much as the author of this article will hate it I will do it anyway and bring up the race card, you are racist because time and time again through your article you make it seem as though only illegal Hispanic immigrants are causing problems here in America. For example you mention that Mexicans should stay in Mexico and stir up a revolution, should I remind you that not all illegal immigrants come from Mexico. I have meet plenty of European immigrants who have over welcomed there stay, but yet because they physically look “American” not a word is said. While on the other hand you have a Guatemalan immigrant who is called “Mexican” just because the average American is too lazy to know the difference between Latinos.

How can the people of Latin America fight for what theirs when Latin American politics are heavily influenced by American interest, should I remind you of the devastation that NAFTA has brought the working classes in Mexico. Should I also remind you that every time that Latin American politics begins to appear non-compliant with American ideology we always interfere.

So for you to say that “these people” should stay in their home countries is basically like saying, “oh yeah continue to be our slaves, we impose our politics on your country and don’t even think of looking for help elsewhere because you don’t deserve it.”

bimbim
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November 19, 2012
If you want racist, look in the mirror. The majority of illegals come from Mexico. FACT! How can you call them slaves when they come here on their own power. ILLEGALLY!If it's so bad on the illegals, THEN GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM. I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHERE THAT IS, GO HOME! After all, the US is sending more and more jobs to Mexico. Go home and make some twinkees!
bimbim
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November 18, 2012
Wow...you preach on brother! The law is the law, period. You break it, you pay. I get so tired of anyone that breaks the law just gets a slap on the hand. Never before in the history of this great nation, have the tax payers had to pay for reprinting government documents in another language. When the Japanese and Chinese came to this country, we didn't print documents in their language. Why should we pay to have it done now? Why is it when some of the illegals get into wrecks and do not have insurance, they just get off? So many of the illegals have never even driven a car until they got here. It's no wonder they have so many wrecks and DWI's. Ignorance of the laws in this country is NOT AN EXCUSE! I'm all for bringing our military home and putting them on our borders. I'm just afraid it's too late. If you are here legally, then this letter is not for you. If you are here illegally, GO HOME OR FACE CHARGES AND THEN BE DEPORTED. If you don't like my opinion, I don't care. This is MY country. I speak the native language, which is ENGLISH. Since I'm writing this in ENGLISH, I'm sure not many that need to read this, can. So, enough said.
CONSERVATIVE2YOU
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November 18, 2012
This article hits the nail on the head. There is a plan in place for illegals to become Americans, and it should be adhered to. The LAW is The LAW, either follow it or pay the penalty. I can see why everone wants to come to this country. It was a better life, but now that has even be destroyed.When Illegals nurse on the Government Cow and actually steal our hard earned TAX Monies, I have a big Problem with that. One of the Mexican Carport Tycoons has made a comment that he would buy Surry County eventually. If citizens fall prey to the CASH money that is offered, then you are the problem. Buy your Carports from an American Company.You know who that guy is.

I have fought for my Country and many others in Surry County have too. If you really want a change in the way we do business and want to do something about Illegals, then hire only American. It makes sense to me.If you hire them, they will stay. If you don't they will move on. South Carolina passed laws to tighten the Illegal problem, maybe North Carolina can do it too. Problem is We have to hold our House and Senate politicians feet to the fire and call and complain. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. So, Let's get Squeaky! Thanks Tom Joyce for the great article, you are awake at the wheel.
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November 17, 2012
What a wonderful and honest assessment of the illegal problem! It expresses my sentiments exactly! I have no animosity toward anyone. It does infurirate me to see people snub their noses at American laws and then have advocacy groups get on their soap boxes and preach rights for these much needed workers. Sure, I would welcome them IF they came into this country legally!

I wish all fair minded people, including the politicians and the Winston Salem Journal staff,

could read and reflect on your article!
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